During his extensive three-part series with Face the Current, Dr. Bruce Lipton has shared dynamic thoughts about energy entanglement, epigenetics, surrogation, piezoelectricity, sound therapy, somatic energy, and consciousness in the field.
In this final portion of his interview, Dr. Lipton enlightens us on emergence, non-allopathic healthcare improvements, and constructive and destructive interference. He will also show us that yes, we can alter our sub-conscious programs through theta state, essentially re-writing our script to contain wishes and desires that we would like to see manifested in our life. This same re-programming can also help us achieve a more permanent “honeymoon-effect” in our relationships. We invite you to join us on this final, illuminating journey as Face the Current presents Dr. Bruce Lipton.
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What drives this technological evolution? The best explanation I’ve heard is the fact that technology was stymied by a limitation in population size. As more and people come together, and communities gets larger, evolution indicates that the field of information is greater and new ideas can be synthesized that wouldn’t be possible in a smaller population. Right now, we as humans are experiencing emergence.
Jeff Granville: Emergence is defined as the collective conscious of multiple organisms into a cohesive unity whose totality is greater than the sum of their individual parts. Can you share what this means in reference to your work and what the true driving force is of emergence?
Bruce Lipton: The driving force of emergence is evolution. Paleontologists have found the same flint tools over a period of 2-3 hundred thousand years in Earth’s history. From this observation we can surmise that humanity was developmentally stagnant for a very long time. About 30,000 years ago, “technology” was introduced in the form of wheels and basic plowing tools. How many years was the first plow used in farming – hundreds and hundreds of years! Over time, the pace of technological evolution has increased to the point where something developed today may become outdated by tomorrow.
What drives this technological evolution? Scientists first postulated that a genetic change occurred in our species resulting in increased intelligence. Another theory stated that there was a change in the structure of the brain which accounted for the boom in intelligence. The best explanation I’ve heard is the fact that technology was stymied by a limitation in population size. If you live in a small group and someone has an idea, there may not be anybody else to offer a follow up to help make that idea a reality. As the population of a community gets larger and larger, ideas are able to be shared more freely and change can be achieved. As more and people come together, and communities get larger, evolution indicates that the field of information is greater and new ideas can be synthesized that wouldn’t be possible in a smaller population. Right now, we as humans are experiencing emergence.
Sasha Frate: What is most exciting to you about the potential for employing our understanding of epigenetics to improve health in the future?
BL: The world, particularly the U.S, is financially suffering from a healthcare crisis. If we depend upon the conventional health care system to secure our health, we will not be able to afford it. With affordability an issue, what else can we do? Alternative medicine, complementary medicine, and nutrition itself are providing some answers. Most health issues are due to lifestyle, self-perception, and environment, and all can be altered. When people recognize that they are not the victims of heredity but the masters of it, they may be able to create change in their lives.
If you want to change a program, use what is called, “self-hypnosis.” As you go to bed, put on earphones to listen to a program containing wishes and desires that you’d like to see manifested in your life.
SF: You’ve said, “Our thoughts are mainly controlled by our subconscious, which is largely formed before the age of 7, and you cannot change the subconscious mind by just thinking about it. That’s why the power of positive thinking will not work for most people. The subconscious mind is like a CD player. Until you change the disc, the program will not change.” How do we change the disc?
BL: The question is: how do we change our programs? There are two natural ways that the subconscious learns and a third way that, with practice, we can engage. EEG’s (electroencephalography) reveal that from the third trimester through age 7, a child’s predominant brain activity is in theta, associated with imagination and hypnosis. During the majority of the day, the adult brain functions in alpha (calm conscious) or beta (working conscious) states. As relaxation occurs, the brain moves from beta state to alpha, and finally, upon sleep enters the theta state – this is the direct line to the subconscious mind.
If you want to change a program, use what is called, “self-hypnosis.” As you go to bed, put on earphones to listen to a program containing wishes and desires that you’d like to see manifested in your life. As you’re sleeping, the alpha disconnects, you’re in theta for a period of time, and the new program is going directly into the subconscious. By habitually repeating this, you can rewrite the subconscious through auto-hypnosis.
I like the phrase, “fake it ‘til you make it!” If you’re not a happy person, practice saying, “I am happy, I am happy,” all day long. At some point, the subconscious will absorb the repetition and make that belief a program. Reading a self-help book in conscious state is very different. You could ace a test on the book’s content but not notice any actual change in your life. Why? The information is not in your subconscious mind and the newly gained knowledge isn’t changing your biology or behavior. Reaching the subconscious mind requires hypnosis and repetition.
Another crucial factor for change is necessity. If change is necessary for the betterment of your life, you can create it. A new modality exists that engages super-learning called “energy psychology.” This can help us to download new beliefs at an advanced rate to elicit the most change possible. Visit my website at www.brucelipton.com to learn more about the various modalities of energy psychology and to find one that fits for you.
Reading a self-help book in conscious state is very different. You could ace a test on the book’s content but not notice any actual change in your life. Why? The information is not in your subconscious mind and the newly gained knowledge isn’t changing your biology or behavior. Reaching the subconscious mind requires hypnosis and repetition.
SF: You take a close look at relationships and various factors of influence to sustain loving relationships in your book “The Honeymoon Effect: The Science of Creating Heaven on Earth.” You describe influential factors such as “quantum physics (good vibrations), biochemistry (love potions), and psychology (the conscious and subconscious minds). Can you share a bit about why/how the infamous honeymoon-period-of-bliss is something that can be maintained in relationships?
BL: The two minds are the conscious and the subconscious. The conscious mind contains wishes and desires and operates about 5% of the time. That means that 95% of our lives are from the programs, which have been downloaded into the subconscious mind. Most of these programs are negative, disempowering, and self- sabotaging. While our conscious minds are busy thinking during the day, our subconscious programming self-sabotages. We externalize our struggles because we don’t see that we’re sabotaging ourselves; we only recognize that life isn’t working.
Knowing all of this, how do we achieve ultimate happiness and heaven-on-earth? Stay mindful, stay present. If you stay in the present moment, the conscious mind is the pilot and your hands are on the wheel.
When two people come together, love keeps the conscious mind present. However, love does not have to be between two people. For example, love can be between a person and a pet, or between a person and something they do. Whether it’s gardening, artwork, or cooking, if it’s keeping your mind in the present moment, you’ll be fulfilling the program of wishes and desires.
When two people go on a first date, they’re behaving in a way that will facilitate their future together. They want to be lovers, to have joy, to offer support and pleasure to their partner, and they want to have fun. During the courting and honeymoon period, our behaviors primarily come from our conscious minds, putting us on our best behavior. As long as we don’t revert to thinking during this time, we will be operating with our hands on the wheel. Unfortunately, in the world in which we live, there’s so much demand on us that thinking is inevitable. Later in a relationship, downloaded negative programming in the subconscious begins to manifest, and it alters the character of the relationship. The joy dims as each partner compromises in order to accommodate the negative behavior that their partner never revealed during the honeymoon phase. As you start compromising, you ask yourself where your limit lies. In many cases, the compromises are too many and the relationship disintegrates. The more you come from the subconscious, the faster the beautiful honeymoon will vanish.
The burning question is whether the honeymoon can be maintained. By rewriting negative programs, it absolutely can. Identify which programs don’t support you and reprogram them into positive wishes and desires. The honeymoon effect happens because we stopped playing subconscious programs in the first place.
If both parties recognize that they have adjustable behaviors, any criticisms are not personal. The criticism is applied to the behaviors derived from the program. Arguments can evolve into discussions and discussions can turn into action.
During the courting and honeymoon period, our behaviors primarily come from our conscious minds, putting us on our best behavior. The more you come from the subconscious, the faster the beautiful honeymoon will vanish. The burning question is whether the honeymoon can be maintained. By rewriting negative programs, it absolutely can.
SF: In your video, “New Biology, New Medicine: The Fall and Rise of Vitalism,” you mention how it’s not the medical practitioners who are against the paradigm shift of implementing ‘energy medicine,’ but it is the health industry because it is a for- profit industry that cannot encapsulate energy as a sellable pharmaceutical. When up against the health industry giants, how do you foresee us implementing this new medicine on a larger scale?
BL: The health industry is pricing itself out of business. The cost of products and services is so high that it’s forcing people to seek alternative complementary healing. People are being driven to modalities that are healthier and more effective. The more that people find help in alternative forms, the more they communicate that to their community. From here, other people in the community explore non- allopathic treatment too, and what you’re seeing is an ever-growing segment of the population seeking alternative healthcare. When people finally understand the significance of epigenetics, (the science by which perception and environment control our biology) they will become the free creators they were meant to be. I hope the health industry sees a massive decline as people can find healing through more effective and affordable alternative complementary sources.

Can you identify your “elephant in the room;” the origin of conflict in your subconscious?FtC: When our perception of our environment has created disease in our biology, how can we identify and alter this perception to facilitate healing and maintain wellbeing?
JG: When our perception of our environment has created disease in our biology, how can we identify and alter this perception to facilitate healing and maintain wellbeing?
BL: How do we create a disease in our body? Less than 1% of disease is connected to genetics. The rest of disease is created from responses to our environment, including our perception of our environment. Our biological expression is a physiological complement to our consciousness, or in most cases, our subconscious. Therefore, when you want to deal with a disease, you have to identify the origin of the conflict. A good diagnostician can look at someone’s life and determine the source of the problem.
In terms of obesity, diets work when the person is conscious of the diet. When they let go of their consciousness, the weight will return. It’s not a weight issue, it’s a behavioral issue. A problem can have multiple causes, but I think that if people can see where emotion might be causing their issues and they can reprogram that emotion, the problem will disappear.
If people have an issue in their lives, I highly suggest Louise Hay’s book, “You Can Heal Your Life.” In the back of the book there’s a glossary listing various problems and diseases, and she connects them to emotional causes. It’s an interesting starting point for analysis.
Energy is life. Good vibes add to life and bad vibes detract. All organisms on this planet communicate via energy. However, humans have prioritized verbal communication over emotions and this is a mistake. Our feelings are going to tell us whether the vibes of our desires are harmonious or disharmonious and that becomes a personal compass.
SF: You mention in your book, “The Biology of Belief” that frequencies can shatter kidney stones and there are claims that cancer cells have been destroyed with frequencies as well. What else is out there and how long do you predict it will be before “modern” medicine expands on the use of frequency therapies? What can you tell us about the claim that Russian scientists have repaired DNA with frequency?
BL: Science and medicine are already moving into the world of frequencies in a sense that all the scan technologies (CAT scan, MRIs, positron scan) are energy technologies. We’re assessing human health by reading energy. In terms of atomic physics, every atom emits and absorbs energy. While a scan can read an energy coming out of a system, we haven’t addressed adding energy. By doing this, you can change the system.
When two energies come together, there are two kinds of interference: constructive interference and destructive interference. Constructive interference enhances the energy of the system while destructive interference cancels the energy of the system. Constructive interference is often referred to as “good vibes.” Positive energy can be transferred between people and result in feelings of happiness, vitality, and love. When this happens, energy interference occurs in a constructive way. In contrast, destructive interference is also known as “bad vibes.” Feelings of fear and low energy are examples of energy in the field cancelling out your positive energy.
Energy is life. Good vibes add to life and bad vibes detract. All organisms on this planet communicate via energy. However, humans have prioritized verbal communication over emotions and this is a mistake. Anyone can say whatever they want, but underlying vibrations (feelings) never lie! Feelings are hard to disguise or to fake, so we should always preface interactions with feelings. Our feelings are going to tell us whether the vibes of our desires are harmonious or disharmonious and that becomes a personal compass.
Did the Russians repair DNA with frequency? I know that pure solutions of DNA can be affected by frequency. A chromosome is 50% DNA and 50% protein. Any experiment where DNA is analyzed without the proteins that normally accompany it is not a reflection of real life. Because of this, I don’t hold credibility in frequency-based DNA repair.
Read the previous installment of this interview- “Revitalize Through Sound Therapy, Somatic Energy, Consciousness and Love With Bruce Lipton” online HERE.”
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